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One Fierce Reader Asked Us When To Allow Her 10-Year-Old To Shave, So We Asked You– Here’s What We Learned

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As Latinas, we often find humor in our collective struggle of dealing with our body hair. Some of us will spend literally thousands of dollars ripping it off, shaving it lasering it, while others will embrace it for what it is: wear it for what it is. Still, no matter how we approach dealing with our body hair, there’s often a question about how to deal with it and for Latinas, this is something we’ve dealt with since puberty. We all have stories about asking our mamas to let us shave our underarms our legs, particularly the peach fuzz on our upper lips, and recently  FIERCE by mitú received a letter from a concerned mother asking us this question:

“I’m a mother of a 10 year old, had my kids super young. I am also Mexican, and by that I mean to say I myself am pretty hairy, my daughter is going through pre-puberty, she’s starting to grow breast[s] and alooooot of body hair… She ha[s] a unibrow and hair [o]n her legs which makes her super self-conscious.⁠ We’ve talked about beauty, and her own beauty, as I caught her thinking if she dyed her hair blond she would look more beautiful, or if she had lighter skin. I even caught her not wanting to eat dinner because she didn’t want to get fat.⁠ I’m super concerned about what she thinks beauty means, even when I constantly reassure her… I’d like to get an opinion from other empowered Latinas as to how young is too young to let a little girl shave and [do] her eyebrows.” ⁠

We asked our followers on Instagram what they had to say about when they thought was an appropriate age to talk with young girls about body hair removal.

From the responses, it looks as if a few points are clear:

1. Young women know by themselves what the right time is.

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“I think the topic should be brought up but let them decide to do so when they are ready. I started shaving my legs at around 16. I would stare at my legs during PE class in middle school and would think, ‘ I wonder what the guys think of my hairy legs…’ Lol but I waited until I felt ready, not pressured. My mom never really talked to me about these things so I decided it on my own. Everyone is different though, but I think a girl should be able to decide when at her own time. ~ i do wish my mom would have told me not to shave above the knees”. -Jessica

2. Talking to your children is of primary importance.

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“Teach them that these things are natural and razors and wax exist because it’s normal for everyone of different colors, shapes and sizes. If she’s interested in shaving or doing her eyebrows, encourage her to do it (safely and to a reasonable extent). It’s better that she’s comfortable in her own skin and that as a mom, you know what she’s doing to her body as opposed to having another 10 year old give her advice. I had to shave my legs behind my moms back and I had razor bumps forever before I found the internet to get tips on how to do it better.” -Alessandra

3. Body hair removal should be on a young woman’s “own terms.”

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“I think it’s better to let her do it on her own terms. Up until I was in seventh grade, I hadn’t shaved my legs. A boy in class asked me ‘why don’t you shave your legs?’ That night, my mom let me shave my legs. It should be on her terms.” -Celeste

4. The teasing we encounter due to body hair can be harmful and have long-lasting effects.

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“My mom found me shaving when I was around 10 years old and got so angry that my dad went to my rescue and told her that I was probably just mimicking her. That helped me not get la faja but I was self-conscious about my very hairy legs and bob haircut that had my classmates calling me niña-varón“. -Laura

5. Discussion can help parents decide how to proceed.

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“My kid is 10 and so far she hasn’t mentioned it. Thanks ladies for all your stories. This validated what my plans are when that day comes she wants to shave. She doesn’t want to pluck or wax her eyebrows cause she says she doesn’t want the pain…. hey, fine with that. I know that day will come and I will show her how to shave her legs and deal with the rest of her body correctamente.” -Sofia

6. Sometimes, strict rules can backfire.

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“I had hairy legs and I wanted to shave as soon as I got to 6th grade PE class. However my mom did not let me. When my sister got to 6th grade, our mom also did not let her but she did it regardless, so upon seeing her do it, I did it in 9th grade without my moms consent. Now that my sister is a mom she promotes whatever her daughter wants to do (as long as she isn’t doing it to ‘fit in’ and simply wants to do it for herself) and even our mom is okay with it after seeing that we did it regardless. She’s said that if she could go back she would because of all the teasing I received throughout high school.” – Iris

7. Shaving can be addictive, it can also be a relief.

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“I didn’t start removing body hair until 8th grade. It was for the promotional dance. My mom bought hair removal cream for my arms and my sister tweezed my unibrow. LOL 😂 i remember thinking WOOOOOW, I look so different! I got made fun of for having super hairy arms when i was little, so I never looked back and kept at it throughout high school and college. Ahora no me importa, now I can go weeks without shaving” – @skull_flower

8. Conversations about shaving can be tearful.

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“I was 10 I think. I had a similar experience as her daughter – I was/am super hairy, and growing up in a very white community, I had visibly hairy legs (and pits). My mom wouldn’t let me shave until I broke down crying after gym class in 5th grade. Anyways, now I don’t shave at all – our bodies grow hair for a reason and I love my body. I get it though, being 10 is the worst”. – Alicia

9. You don’t have to wait for your child to bring it up.

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“As soon as it bothers her [enough to] address it. It takes years to build the confidence to walk around with body hair. Years! Kids at school can be cruel.” -Miriam

10. You can set a due date.

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“That’s a hard one. I’m also the mother of a 10 year old girl. I let her shave her legs when she turned 10. I was the same she. We’re not only hairy, but we have dark hair, with light skin. I remember what it was like, being teased about my hairy legs. So if it gives her a little more confidence, then so be it. What I did tell her is that, because we are so hairy, with dark hair, our eyebrows were beautiful. They’re naturally thick… now she wants to get her brows threaded for shape though”. -Stephanie

11. Butttt maybe tell her why she might not want to touch her eyebrows.

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“My mom NEVER let me or anyone touch my eyebrows and after 25 years on this earth not one person (but myself) have touched these brows. I am PROUD of the strong eyebrows I inherited. I started to shave my armpit hair at about 11, legs at about 13/14, and pubic hair (because of peer pressure) at 15. I am firmly in the camp that likes to shave my body hair, but my bestie grows hers like a forest and I love her for it. I remember when my prima started to grow leg hair and she wanted to shave because girls were making fun of her. I told her to do what she wanted and not what they wanted.” -Ava

12. Singling out can happen.

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” [I was in the] 3rd grade, but I can remember feeling so embarrassed about the black hairs on my legs and arms as early as 1st grade. All the white kids would stare and ask. I even had a white boy tell me I had a mustache to my face!” -Cristina

13. Have “the talk” with her right before middle school.

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“My mom sat me down and had a talk with me about my body hair before entering middle school. I was so naive and didn’t even think I’d encounter the kind of bullying I experienced over HAIR. Sorry, I just have more body hair than you??? Like what? I was 15 when I started waxing and shaving my body.” – Zoe

14. Be sure #bodylove is part of the conversation.

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“If we didn’t have to shave because of our beauty standards we wouldn’t. I wear pants most of the year so I don’t have to. Nobody likes feeling the pain of the eyebrow threading or waxing. I only did it because I got picked on by everyone and my mom would hit me when I did. I’m 24 and my mom says no to shaving but she doesn’t have to because she’s as smooth as a whale. Always teach them to love their body . Ask them if they are doing it for them or for someone else? Extrinsic motives aren’t as good as intrinsic. #loveyourbody”. -Nubia

15. Don’t let her feel pressured to remove it. Show her all of her options.

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“Responding from my laser hair removal place…I shaved my legs for the first time at age 10. My brother used to tease me mercilessly about my hairy legs. He’s 7 years older. I became so self-conscious that I started wearing pantyhose every day, even with shorts! I begged my parents to let me shave. They eventually and VERY reluctantly said yes. My mom was attending night school at the time and had to go to class, so my father demonstrated how to do it. So much pressure to be perfectly hairless. I admire those who don’t feel compelled to succumb to the pressure. She’s beautiful with or without the hair!” – Felicia

16. After all, there’s a lot to love about our body hair.

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“I think any age is the appropriate age to begin a conversation about what beauty means and the more specific to this post, the options women have especially if those young girls are bringing it up already! I believe I started removing body hair when I was around 11 or 12 years old. Shaving my legs was something I figured I had to do if it was noticeable, but something I would do that I no longer do was shave my arms because other girls would boast about how smooth their arms were and it made me feel ashamed for having darker noticeable arm hair. Now, I love it!” -Carmen

17. Mothers should let their daughters shave when their children “feel the need.”

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“My mom let my sister and I shave when we felt the need. We could always go talk to her about stuff like that. She never wanted us to get picked on because we grew up in a very white community. I think it’s super important to continue reminding and showing her what beauty really is. My concern would be why she is feeling so self-conscious. Who or what is influencing her to think she needs to meet certain beauty standards. I reached a point where I would shave every day during the summer and I would occasionally shave during winter for God knows what reason. Now I couldn’t care less if I have some visible stubble because I was too lazy to shave.” -Stephanie

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These Are The Most Disgusting But Also Therapeutic Dr. Pimple Popper Videos And You’re Welcome

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These Are The Most Disgusting But Also Therapeutic Dr. Pimple Popper Videos And You’re Welcome

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Dr. Sandra Lee, more lovingly called Dr. Pimple Popper, has a disturbingly large following. The Southern California Dermatologist posts videos of procedures done to stubborn cysts and pimples. Some people find the videos comforting. Others find them horrifying. Either way, her videos have such extreme reactions, an entire hashtag has been born: #ExtractionReaction.

Dr. Pimple Popper has over 5.6 million YouTube subscribers, with a collective 202 million views in her top ten videos alone. Brace yourselves, y’all. These are pimples so large, the patients need to be locally anesthetized to have them removed.

Warning: This is not a lunch-break quick read. Schedule your Dr. Pimple Popper viewing around the next time you see your therapist, por favor.

10. Blackheads are by far the most popular content on Dr. Pimple Popper’s page, so enjoy this compilation.

With 18 million views, enjoy this compilation of various blackhead extractions. Dr. Lee describes blackheads as “a clogged pore in the skin that is open to the air.” She explains the blackness of blackheads as a result of “the exposure to air that causes oxidation turning the internal contents black.”

9. At first, you can’t even see the blackhead because it’s so deep in the tissue. Dr. Pimple Popper cuts it right open.

After injecting local anesthesia around the “disc”-like blackhead, Dr. Pimple Popper takes a scalpel to the area to dig deep for the blackhead, which slipped right out like “a little river rock.”

8. This cyst is not clean-cut. It’s a cheesy, gooey, disgusting mess out of this patient’s cheek. 🤮

Heads up that the “cheesy” consistency of the popped cyst comes from macerated keratin (wet skin cells).

7. This woman traveled far to have a recurrent cyst removed properly by the one and only Dr. Pimple Popper.

Its unfortunate positioning is right next to a tattoo of her deceased boyfriend’s name, so we understand the patient’s desire to be rid of it. Dr. Pimple Popper used a hole punch to remove the cyst while continually squeezing it and then sewed it back together.

6. Meet the teenagers whose moms can’t remove their blackheads no matter how hard they try.

“It’s a lot less painful than my mom’s,” says one teenager to Dr. Lee. “She’s going to be so proud of your nice, clean nose,” Dr. Lee tells her 16-year-old patient.

5. Mr. Wilson is such a famously satisfying patient of Dr. Pimple Popper, she created a compilation video of his “best extractions.”

What makes for a good extraction? Any extraction that is big, surprising, clean or messy, and of course, anything with Dr. Pimple Popper’s hilarious commentary in the background. This baby has 25 million views.

4. Dr. Pimple Popper treated a skin cancer patient’s husband which revealed a “Blackhead Goldmine.”

“This sweet man has been bringing his wife in to see me, and I have been treating a large skin cancer on her face, with her recently getting Mohs skin cancer surgery,” she posted in the video description. “So, he is not directly a patient of mine, but I couldn’t help but notice that he has so many comedones on his nose.  He tends to not pay much attention to himself, spending much of his energy and efforts making sure his wonderful wife is doing alright.  She has more disabilities than he does, in fact, he looks amazing for 90 years old!”

3. In a two-fer, Dr. Pimple Popper removes not one, but TWO dilated pores of winer in a 90-year-old.

“Oh my goodness, this little friend of yours. I think you’re going to lose a little weight today. It’s like a rock,” she tells her patient as she excises the area to “loosen” the pore before she squeezes it out. Of course, we get the slow-mo play-by-play before she moves onto the next blackhead. “Sweetie, you grow ’em,” she says as she goes to the next one. 

She takes a scalpel to the next one to reveal a blackhead trapped underneath there. “You’re storing a little rock under your skin, she tells him.”

2. With 40 million views, watch Dr. Pimple Popper use her trusty tools to remove this “mother” of a cyst.

“Cysts like this have a very thin wall, so I have to make sure we get it all out,” she tells her patient as she digs around in his actual head to cut away the cyst. She uses scissors to literally cut away bits of flesh, and we’re gagging. The patient was worried it was something life-threatening, but it was just a gnarly cyst. “It set up shop, it likes you,” she said as she continues to dig around. 🤢

1. The #1 slot, with 46 million views goes to this GIANT blackhead extraction that left a hole so large in this woman’s back, Dr. Pimple Popper called it “coin purse.”

An 85-year-old woman came in to have an enormous blackhead removed. Dr. Lee anesthetized the area, attempted to squeeze it, and then just straight-up laughed. Immediately, she went for a pair of tweezers and started to pry the blackhead out of the pore. “It looks like a dog’s toenail,” she said of the disembodied blackhead. 

She then told her patient she could probably fit a diamond or a lentil in the hole left behind. She decided not to close it because it would likely just form another blackhead, so she left nature to do its thing and let the pore slowly close over time.

The ‘Euphoria’ MUA Vomits Glitter All Over The Cast. Here’s A Look At The Most Sparkly Looks This Season

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The ‘Euphoria’ MUA Vomits Glitter All Over The Cast. Here’s A Look At The Most Sparkly Looks This Season

At this point, you’re probably well aware that HBO’s teen drama show “Euphoria” has taken the world by storm. The show centers around a young girl named Rue (played by Zendaya) who, along with her fellow teens, struggles to find her place in the world. The show has made headlines for dealing with Gen-Z’s blunt reality of sex, drugs, and identity crises that have been heavily shaped by the internet. 

But it has also made a mark due to its gorgeous makeup looks. According to “Euphoria’s” head makeup artist, Doniella Davy, showrunner Sam Levinson wanted the makeup looks to be so compelling that it prompted viewers to pause the show and strive to re-create the looks.

 We’ve compiled a list of 21 of the most stunning and memorable makeup looks from “Euphoria”‘s first season.

1. “Dirty”-Era Xtina

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According to Doniella Davy, “Euphoria”‘s makeup artisit-in-chief, the thesis statement behind Jules’s look is: “Express yourself through makeup, however you want, at all times, despite what the mainstream says, and what conventional gender roles have been.” 

2. 70’s Disco 

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This is a quintessential “Maddy look”: crazy cat eye, rhinestones, and topped off with false lashes. 

3. Insta-Emo

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Those who watch “Euphoria” know that virginal Kat goes through some major changes throughout the season. And with it, so does her style. “It’s a rebellious version of glam,” says Davy.

4. “True Romance”

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According to makeup artist Doniella Davy, this look was inspired by Alabama Worley from “True Romance.” The look was a chance for Sydney’s eyes to “get a turn to sparkle”.

5. Chain Eyeliner

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According to Davy, this look was inspired by when she was shopping around in the jewelry-making section of arts and crafts store, Michael’s. Apparently, she “knew immediately” that she wanted to use chain eyeliner of Maddy in the future and “preferably during a moment of conflict”.

6. Non-Conforming Beauty

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“I wanted Jules’ looks to challenge beauty & makeup norms, and I wanted to avoid having her look too polished, perfect or feminine. I felt that not using mascara would help achieve that for this look.”

7. Peacock Fantasy

Davy created this makeup look to be “the opposite of Cassie’s present reality in this moment”. She strove for the makeup to be “total fantasy” and was inspired by peacocks.

8. Tears of Glitter

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Rue’s makeup is relatively tame throughout “Euphoria”, as she’s so caught-up in her addiction that it doesn’t seem like she can bother with a complicated beauty routine. But this look serves us just the right amount of glitter and drama for Zendaya’s flawless features. 

9. Complex Cat-Eye

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According to Davy, she would research complex cat-eye makeup designs on Twitter and then “run them through [her] own filter” so she was creating something “new and different”. 

10. Modern Juliette

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This look from episode 6 was inspired by Claire Danes in 1999’s “Romeo + Juliette”. “I wanted to evoke something ethereal + romantic + gothic,” said Davy on her Instagram page. “Also, I was looking for an opportunity to do glitter brows on someone!”.

11. Smokey Cat-Eye

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Because of Gia’s (Storm Reid)’s youth, she doesn’t get to serve up a ton of makeup looks. But, this one is definiftely for the book: a thick, smokey cat-eye with jeweled braids. 

12. Green Goddess

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One of the things we love so much about the actress Barbie Ferreira is that she’s unashamed to rock her look in its most natural form. For example, most actresses would balk at the chance to show off their un-tweezed brows in all their unified glory. 

13. Night Sk-Eye

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This look is sexy, unique and mysterious–just like Jules.

14. Iris from “Taxi Driver”

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For this look, Davy wanted “flame eyeliner, pink glitter and Twiggy lower lashes – all at once” to evoke the character of Iris from the classic film “Taxi Driver”

15. Ms. 45

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According to Davy, this makeup look was inspired by the art-house exploitation film “Ms. 45”. 

16. Understated Princess

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The blue eyeliner and ribbon make for a goody-two-shoes look with a bit of an edge.

17. Courtney Love-Inspired

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This smudgy grungey Nirvana-era makeup look is one of the more understated looks of “Euphoria”, but it packs a punch nonetheless. 

18. Starburst-Inspired

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This look has David Bowie/Ziggy Stardust written all over it. 

19. Normcore

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Even when Maddy is at her most stripped-down, she still commands attention. Here, she pares a low-key look with matte green shadow.

20. Neon Goth

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Show runner Sam Levinson asked for “neon X’s on Anna’s eyelids and a goth vibe” for this look.

21. Purple Romantic

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“Euphoria’s” makeup artisit Don Davy insists that there’s more to popular-girl Maddy than “rhinestones and cat eyes”. Davy explained that she “designed [Maddy’s] makeup to have a fantastical element to it” because deep down inside, Maddie is a “diehard Romantic”.

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